In Defense of the EDL

October 13, 2009

In the battle against Islamists in the court of public opinion, those of us standing in defense of Western civilization are tasked with unfortunate challenge of having to decide who is or is not an acceptable ally. While many political parties and organizations around the world, from Vlaams Belang of Belgium to the Dutch Partij voor de Vrijheid lead by the iconic Geert Wilders, have outright rejected xenophobia and anti-semitism, others have not. In fact, the disturbing trend in recent years has been for xenophobic and anti-semitic parties like the National Front of France or the British National Party  to jump on the anti-Islamist bandwagon in response to the rising displeasure with Islam among their compatriots, without having yet disavowed their history of bigotry and promising real change. Indeed, the British National Party, which has enjoyed a great deal more popular success since Nick Griffin took over in 1999 and organized his hoodlum supporters into a proper political organization capable of winning elections, continues spewing some of the most vile white supremacist screed in all of Europe. Accordingly, when they denounce another anti-Islamist organization, it necessitates a closer look at said group, for odds are they represent acceptable allies in the fight for Western civilization.

Most recently, the British National Party issued a statement denouncing the English Defense League as “a Zionist false flag operation, designed to create a real clash of civilisations right here on our streets between Islam and the rest of us.” Indeed, in the full message, Griffin goes so far as to suggest this is part of a Zionist (his way of identifying Jews while still giving him the capacity to claim he is speaking about only a select few of us) cabal that ends with the UK using nuclear weapons against the Muslim world. And of course for good measure, he indicts the British newspapers endorsing the ELD as co-conspirators. If all of this sounds like the sort of vile anti-semitism that Czarist Russia and Nazi Germany serialized for mass consumption to inspire support for brutally repressive anti-Jewish policies, that is because it ought to. The British National Party after all, is one of the most beloved European political parties among participants in neo-Nazi forums like Stormfront.

Now then, what is the English Defense League all about, and are they fit allies as the BNP condemnation might suggest? Formed on June 27, 2009, the English Defense League is a group of “ordinary, non-racist citizens of England and supporters who have had enough of being treated as second-class citizens to the Jihadis in our own country,” with around 300 members. They are not against all Muslims, or even the disturbingly violent faith of Islam. Rather, they seek to compel government action “against extremist Muslim preachers and organisations.” Their rejection of racism could not be any more clear, for they openly declare that “Everyone from those whose ancestral roots are in pre-Roman Britain to immigrants just arrived yesterday will be welcomed into the EDL with open arms as long as they are willing to stand up with us for English values and against Islamist hate.” Aside from receiving death threats from Jihadists and their ill-informed anti-fascist allies on the liberal fringe, the group notes that they regularly receive such threats from white supremacist groups, as a consequence of which, most of the group’s leadership is not publicly disclosed. In essence then, the group can summarily be described as a loose coalition of Brits from many different walks of life and political backgrounds that is united in its opposition to the most objectionable elements of the Islamic community, which is against the use of violence, and which has no broader aims or objectionable inclinations.

It seems to me that given presently available information, there are only two issues that exist as it pertains to the ELD. First, while it is growing rapidly, it seems poorly organized, and lacking in the sort of centralized orientation needed to present a consistent and appropriate message wherever branches are found. This could ultimately cause the group to splinter, with the secondary risk that some of the offshoot groups will be swallowed up into white supremacist movements. The other issue with the English Defense League is that they seem to be insufficiently informed about the nature of Islam, such that they draw a distinction between regular and radical Islam. While it is entirely appropriate to state that many individuals who identify themselves as Muslims are peaceful and are valued participants in society that have no interest in undermining our way of life, it is necessary to emphasize that their self-identification is not entirely valid. That is to say, those who call themselves Muslims but reject Jihad, caliphate building, and the subordination of those infidels the ummah opts not kill, are guilty of apostasy. And, as we know from al-Baqarah 2:217, “Whosoever of you turns back from his religion and dies as a disbeliever, then his deeds will be lost in this life and in the Hereafter, and they will be the dwellers of the Fire. They will abide therein forever.” In other words, when enforced, Islam punishes such respectable individuals with death. When not, such as in the Western World, they are simply deemed apostates to be killed when circumstances allow (following the rejection of an invitation to return to Islam), who even if allowed to die of natural causes will suffer eternal torment in the afterlife. All of this is a roundabout way of saying that there is no moderate Islam, only moderates who continue to self-identify as Muslims.

Those being the biggest problems with the ELD, it is therefore appropriate that those interested in fighting against the Islamists stand in partnership with said organization. Their aims are informed by a highly moderate and inclusive ideology, such that they are more above reproach than even many of the best regarded anti-Jihadist parties (like the Sweden Democrats). It is my hope that they continue to grow, and that the anti-Jihad community rejects the paranoid rantings of Charles Johnson, instead standing with these well intentioned men and women.

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  1. October 14, 2009

    It’s quite contradictory for the EDL to say we are, “ordinary, non-racist citizens of England and supporters who have had enough of being treated as second-class citizens to the Jihadis in our own country.” They say they are non-racist, but then on the flip side, they are against preachers who are extreme. Would they be against a Christian church who was arguing that, perhaps, the Prime Minister needed to be killed? Or, is it strictly that they are Islamic Jihadis that promotes the “they are bad and we need to be against them!” I can’t agree with a group that says, “we are non-racist, but we’re against this group of people.”

  2. October 14, 2009

    I think you are making a fundamental mistake in faulting a group for narrow aims. That they do not also address rhetorically extreme Christians is not a sign of endorsement, nor does it suggest there are xenophobic motivations for their anti-Islamist motivations. It simply means that the membership is united around a different goal, and that they have decided to allow other organizations to focus their efforts on dealing with the problem you mention.

  3. October 14, 2009

    Also, I received the following incoherent response via email from a fellow claiming to represent the Jewish Defense League in the UK, and the email address and chapter leadership would seem to check out with the information on the JDL’s international website. Before I post it (without corrections to spelling or grammar), I would like to note two things. First, the JDL of the present day is in no way similar to that founded by Rabbi Meir Kahane, and any attempts to link the two are entirely invalid. Kahanists of every stripe reject the current JDL. Second, I wish to note that the “facts” contained in the email do not check out. The author treats the ELD as though it is the same as the BNP. This ignores the fact that both groups have routinely refused to identify with one another, have plenty of negative things to say about each other, and have rather different aims. So, while I post this to express what is the official view of the JDL UK, I do so after having noted that it contains errors in fact, and is the product of an invalid mutation of the original Jewish Defense League.

    We are extreamly depressed, and disheartened at the many comments posted on Islamic blogs & editorials in the Muslim Press (on-line & newspapers), incorrectly suggesting, that the holding of the Israeli flag, by racist anglo-saxons at edl demonstrations, equates to Jewish or Zionist leadership, or other involvement in the revolting english defence league.
    I am sure that this is a minority view, but it seems to be a growing one, still voiced by many, and published un-challenged by muslims. This is ignorant, and offensive to all Jews, of all persuasions and tribes.
    I was so appalled & depressed that any Muslim can think that there is any sort of Jewish, Israeli, or Zionist influence, element, or even leadership within the nazi organisation the english defence league. They are made up fundementaly from members of the bnp (which bans Jews from joining their racist anglo-saxon group), and past members of combat 18 & the national front; both openly nazi groups in england, active in the 1970s & 1980s.
    At a recent edl & bnp “fun day” they were burning the Israeli flag. When not bringing it to their vile demonstrations, these facists place the flag of Israel on a toilet floor, to be used as an alternative to the urinal in thier members only pub. There are no Jews demonstrating with them, only against them.
    Supporters of Israel have to accept that the policies of many Israeli
    politicians, and the behaviour of many many Israeli soldiers does nothing to help distinguish those of us that support the land that we would call Judea, from those that want to persecute Muslims – but I would say any Zioinst that cannot understand & have a sincere desire for a comparable homeland for the Palastinians, is not a true Zionist, but is lost to the righteous path that can see both Israel & Palastine flourish together.
    The only reason the edl bring our flag to their revolting demonstations, is the misguided belief that it antagonises Muslims – I do not actualy believe that it even occured to these racist anglo-saxons that Muslims would take this as signifying that there were Jews within, or leading the edl – that is a revolting and hugely misguided suggestion, and imensely offensive & repulsive to all decent Jews, whether Zionists, or not.
    The tone of many comments from those claiming to be Muslims, suggesting that there is a Jewish connection with the edl, based soley on a moronic anglo-saxon bringing an Israeli flag to one demonstration, are no different to the nazi propoganda of the 1940s. Although proposterous these views can be very dangerous, as they can give the edl what they crave, division between the two peoples they despise the most.
    Children of Abaraham/Ibrahim we must always remember our intertwined
    culture & faith, that distinguishes us from these anglo-saxon neanderthals at the edl.
    Please do not beleive for one single solitary second that any Jew,
    of any persuasion would either be invloved with these animals, or desire to see our flag in their filthy hands.
    In our position at JDL, being particularily in contact with the right wing of British Jewry, and Zionists worldwide, if we see/read anything other than total condemnation of the edl’s perverse use of Israel’s flag, we will argue, protest and educate that it is unacceptable, and must not be tolerated by any Jew or any persuasion.

    Salaam Shalom,

    Jacob Pres LL.B
    National Director JDL.UK

  4. October 14, 2009

    I fault groups that think that they are “better” than another. What I take from this, and hey, I may be wrong is this: “We feel that we are better than Islamic fundamentalists, but they are really starting to spread into our area, so we’re going to do whatever we can to keep them out.” Sounds like something the KKK would have said back in the 1860s and 70s. I could be wrong, but that’s how I hear it.

  5. October 14, 2009

    First, a belief that you are superior to another need not be a matter of xenophobia. Indeed, even if it were a matter of finding one culture preferable to another, I believe that to be a question of personal values that carries with it not bigoted connotations. But leaving that aside for a moment, your comparison to the KKK is entirely out of line. Ignoring the fact that their membership rules allow Muslims to join so long as they are integrated into British society, there is an important point difference with respect to violence. Namely, the reject it. They have even vowed to avoid returning to cities where others instigated violence, for the sole purpose of upholding the law and civil order.

  6. October 14, 2009

    So, only through peaceful actions do they attempt to remove Islamic fundamentalists from the area? It still sits uneasy with me, but hey, that’s only because I don’t understand it entirely. As for my comparison to the KKK…Anyone can create a justification why someone is bad is all I was saying. The KKK felt that the Blacks were bad for their neighborhood, this group feels that Islamic fundamentalists are bad for their neighborhoods. Whether they are or are not is irrelevant. The two groups feel similar thoughts. What is important is how the ELD acts.

  7. October 14, 2009

    I appreciate you acknowledging that your information here is incomplete, and that you are going more off of first impression than thorough research. What I would say is that, all things considered, to draw the parallel you did does a disservice to the victims of the KKK. Understand that they were (and remain) a racist organization that employed violence based on arbitrary criteria against parties who had done no wrong. Here, the ELD is not using violence in any case, and of equal consequence, limits profoundly who they even take issue with. They are not anti—-Muslim. Rather, they oppose those who want to replace British law with Islamic law, and who are by any reasonable standard dangerous to society based on their sympathies for a barbaric legal and social code, and who support acts of terrorism that have claimed British lives.

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